MACP Joint Committee Meeting

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NO. 11/1/2010-JCA
Government of India
Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions
Department of Personnel & Training
(JCA Section)

North Block, New Delhi
Dated the 20th April, 2011

OFFICE MEMORANDUM

Subject: Summary record of discussions held during the third meeting of the Joint Committee on MACPS held on 15th March, 2011 under the Chairpersonship of the Joint Secretary (Estt.) DOPT.

The undersigned is directed to enclose herewith summary record of discussions held during the Third Meeting of the Joint Committee on MACPS held under the Chairpersonship of the Joint Secretary (Establishment), DOPT on 15th March, 2011 for information and further
necessary action.

(Dinesh Kapila)
Director (JCA)

 

SUMMARY RECORD OF DISCUSSIONS HELD DURING THE THIRD MEETING OF THE JOINT COMMITTEE ON MACP’S HELD UNDER THE CHAIRPERSONSHIP OF THE JOINT SECRETARY (ESTABLISHMENT), DOP&T ON 15th MARCH 2011

1. The third meeting of the Joint Committee constituted to examine the anomalies pertaining to the MACP scheme was held under the Chairmanship of Joint Secretary (Estt.) Department of Personnel & Training on 15th March, 2011. All the members of the Committee were present in the meeting.

2. The Chairperson welcomed the representatives of the Official Side and the Staff Side and stated that with respected item numbers 13, 21, 27, 28, 32, 38, 44, 50 & 58, suitable instructions had been issued vide this Department’s O.M. dated the 1st November, 2010. She also informed that as per the decision taken in the second meeting of the Joint Committee, vide this Department’s O.M. dated 10th February, 2011, all concerned have been advised to review the cadre structure in a time bound manner with a view to mitigate the problem of stagnation

3. Thereafter, the agenda items which were still pending were taken up for discussion.

Item numbers 1,3,8, 9 & 29-Grant of financial upgradation in the promotional hierarchy instead of Grade Pay hierarchy under the MACPS.

The Staff Side reiterated their demand that the financial upgradations under the MACP Scheme should be granted in the promotional hierarchy of posts instead of the Grade Pay hierarchy. The Staff Side stated that the erstwhile ACP Scheme was implemented on the recommendations of the 5th CPC and, as such, has become a part of the service conditions of the employees. The Staff Side, therefore, contended that the Government cannot impose the MACP Scheme thereby altering the service conditions to the detriment of the employees.

The Official Side stated that the 6th CPC recommended two financial upgradations in the Grade Pay hierarchy after 12 and 24 years. However, the Government improved upon the recommendations of the 6th CPC and has implemented MACPS with three financial up gradations in the Grade pay hierarchy after 10, 20 & 30 years. Referring to earlier discussions held in the matter, the Official Side stated that the Government was willing to consider revision in para 13 of the MACP Scheme to the effect that organizations I cadres shall have the option to choose either the ACP scheme or MACP Scheme. However, the Staff Side pointed that such a dispensation will not be practical and hence there is a need to explore other alternatives to solve the issue. After discussion, it was agreed that there is no need to change the basic structure of MACP Scheme. However, there is a need to separately examine those cases where MACP Scheme is less advantageous than the ACP Scheme. Accordingly, it was decided that the Official Side will write to the Ministry of Railways, Defence, Urban Development, Home and the Department of Posts to forward information in respect of the specific categories of employees where the MACPS is less advantageous than the erstwhile ACP Scheme The Official Side also requested the Staff Side to collect and forward such information to the Department of Personnel 8 Training for further necessary action. I’n this connection, the Staff Side specifically pointed out the case of Technician category wherein under ACP (w.e.f 1.10.199) the staff got upgradation to Rs.4500- 7000 (V CPC) on completion of 24 years whereas under MACPS they get the same benefit, i.e. Grade Pay of Rs.2800 afler 30 years.

Item Nos. 2,7,20 8 48-Date of Effect of MACP Scheme

The Staff Side stated that many employees who retired between 1.1,2006 and 31st August, 2008, have been deprived of the benefits of MACP Scheme and therefore, demanded that the MACP Scheme may be made effective from 1.1.2006. The Official Side stated that the matter was discussed and finalized in the second meeting of the Joint Committee and therefore, there was no reason to reopen the matter. After discussions, it was decided that the matter may be treated as finalised so far as the Joint Committee on MACP IS concerned and if required, the Staff Side may raise this issue in the next meeting of the National Anomaly Committee.

Item Nos. 57 – Grant of ACP benefit to Artisan Staff of the Ministry of Defence

The Staff Side stated that consequent upon the recommendations of the Fast Track Committee, the highly skilled Artisan Staff of the Ministry of Defence was bifurcated in two categories, i.e., Highly Skilled -II (with Grade Pay of Rs.2400/-)and Highly Skilled-I (With Grade Pay of Rs.2800/-). The Staff Side contended that this bifurcation, in the first instance, may be treated as placement and not as promotion for the purpose of MACP. The Official Side stated that as per the extant instructions of the Department of Personnel 8 Training, where the whole of a cadre is placed in a higher scale, such placement is not treated as promotion. However, when only a part of a cadre is placed in a higher scale, then such placement is treated as promotion for all purposes including MACPS. The Official Side further stated that even under the erstwhile ACP Scheme similar practice was followed and there is no reason to deviate from that.

The Staff Side cited a Supreme Court judgment in the case of Union of India Vs V.K. Sirotia reported in 1999 Supreme Court cases (L&S) 938 that where certain percentage of post are granted higher pay scales to seniors in the cadre will be treated as placement and not promotion. The Staff Side also cited the Manual of instructions for restructuring of cadres in 1.A & A.D (para 3.2.8) wherein it has been stated that the Screening Committee in combined Audit & Accounts Offices besides selecting persons for transfer to audit offices will also decide on their placement (& not promotion) against the higher scale posts.

After prolonged discussions, it was decided that the matter would be re-examined by the Department of Personnel & Training in consultation with the Department of Expenditure.

Item Nos. 12,30 & 49 – Treatment of employees selected under LDCE Scheme / GDCE Scheme.

The Staff Side demanded that employees selected under the LDCE Scheme / GDCE Scheme should be treated as a direct recruit and their earlier promotions and services rendered should be ignored for the purpose of MACPS as was being done in the ACP Scheme. The Official Side informed that treatment of such cases would generaly be same in MACP as was in the ACP Scheme. Ministry of Railways would be advised to examine the matter accordingly.

Item Nos.11.15.22.39.47 & 51- Promotion in the identical Grade Pay

The Staff Side raised the issue of promotions in the identical grade pay and demanded that in such cases the benefit of one increment should be granted at the time of promotion. ‘The Official Side stated that if regular promotion is to the same grade pay, then MACP would also be granted to the same grade pay. On the issue of whether one increment is to be allowed in such cases, a reference has been received in the Department of Expenditure from Ministry of Railways. Further action in the matter would be taken consequent upon receipt of certain information from Ministry of Railways as called for by the Department of Expenditure.

4. After discussion on the agenda items, the Staff Side stated that in many instances the provisions of the MACP Scheme were being misinterpreted by various Ministries/ Departments thereby causing financial loss to the employees. The Official Side stated that many Ministries/ Departments had sought various clarifications regarding the provisions of the MACP Scheme which has been given. In addition, many clarificatory Office Memoranda have also been issued by the Department of Personnel & Training to allay the misgivings misunderstandings regarding the Scheme. However, if certain misgiving misunderstandings were still continuing, the respective Ministries/ Departments may be advised to refer the matter to the Department of Personnel & Training for resolution of the same.

5. In the end, it was decided that the recommendations of the Joint Committee on MACP Scheme along with the action taken report may be discussed in the next -meeting of the National Anomaly Committee.

6. The meeting ended with a vote of thanks to the Chair.

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  1. says

    Sir,
    though I am Bsc graduate working as Group’D’ my basic was stagnated in 2005 itself no increment. the scale is fixed for the calculation of 6th CPC and fixed my grade pay as 1800 and {ACP was not given} MACP is given on 2008 and fixed my Grade pay Rs1900/ what to do for stagnation? what would be my Grade pay? Any one knows please kindly intimate me through E-mail. Thank you in Advance.

  2. says

    Sir,
    The following record of promotions in my 30 yrs service.

    Date of joining
    In Service Department As a /
    Promoted Gd Pays
    Pre-revised scale Direct Recruitment
    \ Promoted
    Years completed in Same Department
    05 Sep 1979 DGAQA Sup ‘A’ Rs. 4200/-
    Rs. 4600
    Rs.9300-34800
    02 Apr 1992 DGAQA CM-I
    07 Nov 1994 DGAQA Foreman Rs. 4800 IInd Fin-Up gradation
    (Rs.9300-34800)
    PB-2 Direct recruitment
    20 yrs
    28 Feb 2008 DGAQA JSO Promoted
    5 Sep 2009 completed
    30 yrs

    In view of the above I am completed 32 yrs continous service in DGAQA (Same department) without service break . kindly suggest what to I do for IIIrd MACP (GP Rs 5400/-)
    My juniors in same department drawn GP Rs 5400/- .
    Now 32 yrs Service completed in same department and picture was crystal clear to granting IIIrd Financial up gradation to Rs.5400/- (PB-2) wet 05 09 09 under MACP. My HQ not given any reply on my case. Your comment requested please please.

  3. Mrs Narayanikutty says

    I was in the post of Assistant and drawing basic pay of Rs.7100/- on 1-1-2006 and was promoted to Office Supdt on 1 Jun 2006 and my pay was fixed at Rs.7425/-. While fixing the pay on 6th PC on 1-1-2001 my pay was fixed as the pay salary drawn on 1.1.2006 and my promotion was not taken into account. My promotion is ignored and MACP is also not eligible for us. All was give three promotions in 30 years where as in my case i have completed 40 years of service and received only two promotion. I retired in Feb 2007. I request you to kindly instruct me how my problem can be solved.

  4. says

    Sir,

    Kindly sloved my promblem

    In the our office Assistant scale prevised 5000-150-8000 and field officer 5500-175-9000

    After the 6th pay commission report above both scale are marign and given the grade pay of Rs. 4200/- If, assistant is promoted as feild office on same grade pay. please advise

    kamal kant

  5. H.N.MEENA says

    DIRECT APPOINTED BY RRB/SC-BADIN FEB.NINETEEN EIGTHY SIX AS JAA AND PROMOTED AS AA IN FEB. 1989 IN GRADE Rs.1400|- AND SOUGHT REQUEST TRASFER FROM ONE DIVISION TO ANOTHER DIVISION ON 24 APRIL,1989 AND BECOME AS A JAA 25 APRIL, ONE DAY KEEPT ME AS A JAA AND 26 APRIL, 1989 AGAIN PROMOTED ME AS A AA,IN Rs.1400|-VACANCY IS AVAILABLE. THERE IS NO FINANCIAL LOSS.SEPT,1996,PROMOTED AS A SO. IN GRADE,Rs1640|-. till date I
    am not benefited by macps financial upgration due to counted two promotion istead one.my question is here MACPS means promotion or financial benefit to employees.what is defferece between promotion and financial upgradation please, clarified.

  6. D H THACKER says

    I am central government employee. I received macps promotion macp111 dated 09/03/2010, arias was also received, pay gread 4600 and one increment also given and pay fix. now after two years head office stated that your option of pramotion was received late so your macp pramotion given to you one year late and exess pay paid to you is recovered from your salary due to late received of your option latter of pramotion. Please give me advise that Rules what say and what we can do aginst this recovery. And give me advise on my mail id thackerdhirajlal2gmail.com.

  7. sumanta ghosh says

    I have been working in ESIC, Ministry of labour, government of India since 29.01.2007 . I am getting salary in payscale of 9300-34800 with Grade Pay of Rs. 4200. All the p.A.s are getting salary in the pay scale of 9300-34800 with grade pay of Rs. 4600. senior nurses in this department are getting pay scale of 9300-34800 with grade pay of rs. 4600(Old or Pre- revised scale 5000-150-8000. But why shall we be deprived when assistants in other departments are getting grade pay of rs. 4600. Kindly guide us what to do to solve this anomalies and to get Rs. 4600 as grade pay.

  8. sonaram das says

    my appointment 1998.i have 2 promotion get in 2003.now after 10 year 2013 will i get macp 4200 great pay.pl I need confermation in my macp

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